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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 24, 2006 2:28:41 GMT -5
*Looks at all the files on her computer* There are so many unfinished pictures on this computer. Some I have lost the desire to do, others I'm just too lazy, and some I'm just tired of working on because of....how much work it is, lol, to do so many realistic pictures. >.< Stroke after stroke after stroke...it's...e.n.d.l.e.s.s. But anyway, as I was...meandering in thought the other day, this picture popped into my head. This happens a lot. Most of the time it spawns some kind of drawing or writing spurt. So today I decided to give that a little free reign. This is the beloved outline, which I scribbled in Open Canvas, which is very scribbly indeed. Here we have the scribbly with the beginning background, so feel special. Last, but not least, just take a gander at the nice bkg I am building. I know the tree needs to be sharper and have more definition. I'm building the rocks right now. I don't quite know how to paint on the computer like I'd like to, but I think I am getting somewhere. At least, I'm trying. Technique, I suppose. The picture will be called "Blossom Horse" or something like it. Enjoy! |
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Post by Rhayeqasr on Mar 24, 2006 4:24:02 GMT -5
Wow, I like it ^_^
Hah, if you call that a scribble...I don't know what my crap is called...
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Post by Dawby on Mar 24, 2006 8:33:18 GMT -5
the colors in the tree trunk are gorgeous
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 24, 2006 12:29:31 GMT -5
The horse/boy are my scribble, lol. Thanks!
I should add more detail to the trunk, though, shouldn't I?
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Post by Dawby on Mar 24, 2006 13:08:27 GMT -5
depends on what you're going for. i like the minimalist look
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 24, 2006 13:37:08 GMT -5
Nn, it doesn't have to have more. I suppose once it's done..mybe then I'll know, lol, if it works with the rest of the picture.
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Post by tlouey on Mar 24, 2006 15:42:13 GMT -5
the tree and background are INCREDIBLE! The horse's chest is a bit too high, the backs a bit too long, the legs are a bit too short... but the boy and horse are very nice for a "scribble" I like the moss-like green you have on the tree and the swirling pink... very magical. The horse's face is cute, its crimpy mane is pretty and I like the style of the bridle you have on it. You're really talented with open canvas, do you have a tablet?
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 24, 2006 23:44:05 GMT -5
Yessssssss, I do have a tablet. And the horse I actually took reference from looking muchly like what I drew, lol. But you're right, the back is so messed up, lol, etc.
Thank you muchos! ^_^
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Post by tlouey on Mar 25, 2006 12:47:03 GMT -5
you're welcome, although im curious as to what kind of horse you used as a reference.
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 25, 2006 13:14:29 GMT -5
Fresian.
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Post by tlouey on Mar 25, 2006 20:06:04 GMT -5
oh, that would make sence  |
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 25, 2006 21:29:53 GMT -5
I hope it makes dollars sometime. I'm gonna make prints for the ren faire.
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Post by Starluck on Mar 26, 2006 20:04:10 GMT -5
Far be it for me to be a professional on horse composition, but to -me- the legs and hooves look a smidge stocky. :3 That's just me, though, you can take my opinion or leave it as you like. At first, I thought it was a draft horse.
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Post by tlouey on Mar 26, 2006 20:51:32 GMT -5
Im sorry, I don't want to come off as a... a... well, a mean person who says mean things. I don't want you to think that Im all full of myself and such either. However, I have spent my entire life with horses and know a fair bit about them... including their anatomy and conformation. From your drawing, I see that you have a lot of skill in rendering but it looks like you're quite unfamiliar with horses. I think if you think about your drawing of the horse in three dimensions and imagine how your horse would function if it were alive, you'd see that, well, it would never have survived if it had been born like that. Just think about the horse trying to move around with such an incredibly long and weak back like that. Also, it would never be able to graze as its neck is too short and strangely curved. The chest point/joint between the Scapula and Humerus bones is way too high which would make it impossible for the horse to move its front legs. If you're wanting to sell this image when you've completed it, I would really encourage you to do a little more research into the horse and try fixing it up a bit more... because, personally, the anatomical errors in the horse are a bit of an eyesore. Here is the skeleton of an average sport horse type... www.saddleworld.co.uk/images/skeletond.jpg But if you're more into drawing through artist measurement instead of anatomy... (like fitting an eye between the eyes of a human's face, and three heads on their shoulders.. and the human is so many heads tall and so on)... then you can look at the horse like that as well. USUALLY, with a well conformed horse of most breeds, the length from a horse's withers to the bottom of their chest should be the same length of their head from poll to tip of muzzle. AND a horse's length of their chest from to very highest point of their withers to the bottom of their chest is usually around the same length as from where their front legs are attached to the bottom of their fetlock. It varies on horses and horse breeds, however its QUITE accurate for a well proportioned Friesian. THIS is a very well drawn Friesian, very anatomically well-drawn. www.kodiaknet.com/ironhorse/pics/friesian.jpgSome photos of Friesian horses www.agraria.org/equini/friesian.jpganimals.timduru.org/dirlist/horses/BlackHorse-friesian.jpgwww.lynnrphoto.com/images/beauty19.jpgusers.igl.net/morganvalley/fullphoto/wed4.jpgwww.imh.org/imh/bw/images/frconf.jpgOBVIOUSLY, this is your drawing, so you are absolutely NOT required to make any changes to the horse on my account... however, one should not post their drawings for critic if they do not want any comments on how to improve the drawing. Again, if you are wanting to sell it, I would strongly advise you to make a few changes to the horse to make it look more rennaisancey and anatomically correct. SO, if you want to try and do a few things with the sketch... some things you could do to fix its anatomical errors up would be to thin the crest (or top) of the neck down quite a bit and angle it down a little more. Bring the height of the chest down a little and have the furthest jutting out point of the chest down quite a bit further. Try to imagine the skeletal frame of the horse when drawing it. Friesians have thinner necks than many of the heavier horses... so its best that you thin it a little. Even if it were arching its neck.... it would not be shaped like that. www.excalibur-ltd.com/TietseInternet.jpgwww.excalibur-ltd.com/ASteeds/Jamaica%20Man/OnneF12.jpgwww.excalibur-ltd.com/ASteeds/TietseParkWk/TG4.jpgwww.excalibur-ltd.com/ASteeds/TietseParkWk/TG7.jpgSee (especially in this photo) how the chest and neck more than less follows a fairly straight line down the front. The line doesnt really jut in and then out like you have in yours... www.excalibur-ltd.com/ASteeds/TietseParkWk/TG1.jpgAlso, see how the neck more or less on the top follows the same nice, soft curve right along the withers (shoulders) of the horse.. until it sways nicely into the back and then gently back up to the top of the hip on the rump. The legs are slightly longer than on your horse... so you could lengthen the legs very slightly. Thin the legs a bit and well the fetlock and hooves well... I dont know how you could fix what oyu already have... maybe try redrawing them while looking at some references that don't have as much feathering as heavier horses do. www.uksaddlery.com/usrimage/13.gifwww.horseshoes.com/advice/balancingnormalfoot/gifs/3.gifAnyhow, its obvious that you are skilled in rendering nice images... Im sure with some work and some more research and closer account of detail... your horses will too look very nice. Thanks for attention on the matter... just remember, as my drawing proffesor says, "drawing is understanding... you need to understand what you're drawing in order to draw it." |
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Post by alphabloodscythe on Mar 27, 2006 3:00:02 GMT -5
Actually, lol, I had my first horse at age twelve and have been riding/training horses ever since. However, I hardly ever draw horses, hence the face I am VERY RUSTY at it. However, remember this--it is that--a sketch, meaning the final product...will look FAR different, lol. IF anything, the screwed up picture actually helps me get it right. That and I can do it very well on a computer compared to pencil, but you're right, I should look at it more. However, that comes in with the painting...not with the sketch in this case. The picture I was drawing from was quite odd but it was the only good reference I could find at the time. I've never been extremely good at drawing horses. I always mess up the hocks, barrel, and bresket. Since it is so late, I will look at the pictures later, when I am awake and able to tackle drawing again. ^.^ Thank you for your assistance. Keep in mind I have double vision, so it's very hard to draw references while on a computer, but it's the easiest way, since I don't have a scanner. <<And why the heck would I mind crits??>> |
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