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Post by drago on Apr 25, 2005 13:29:12 GMT -5
 What do you guys think? Suggestions? Critisms? I am trying new "dynamic" poses and what not... drago |
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Post by Leafy on Apr 25, 2005 15:22:49 GMT -5
the legs look like they're out infront of him(?) Put them more under, like outline the muscles on the joints and the chest a bit more. *looks for a ref image* I should have one to show you that I use on my dragons, hold on. www.geocities.com/dukuto/new_dragons/Sonoreth.jpgNot as recent as I'd like, but good enough, the legs still go straight down from the chest, but like any animal in a sitting position, the chest comes out a bit more, so underline the chest infront of the legs, it puts them under him(?) and looks more natural too n_n |
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Post by drago on Apr 25, 2005 15:28:57 GMT -5
the legs look like they're out infront of him(?) Put them more under, like outline the muscles on the joints and the chest a bit more. *looks for a ref image* I should have one to show you that I use on my dragons, hold on. www.geocities.com/dukuto/new_dragons/Sonoreth.jpgNot as recent as I'd like, but good enough, the legs still go straight down from the chest, but like any animal in a sitting position, the chest comes out a bit more, so underline the chest infront of the legs, it puts them under him(?) and looks more natural too n_n Oh dear, I was going for a standing position. :-\ (That goes to show my skills, lol.) The drake is supposed to be standing and we're suppose to see his/her front... But thanks for the advice -- my sitter dragons (which I have been practicing) all thank you. :-D drago |
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Post by Dawby on Apr 25, 2005 15:45:24 GMT -5
I like him; but is he tilted to the left or is it just my eyesight?
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Post by Leafy on Apr 25, 2005 15:46:46 GMT -5
What kinda pose were you going for? Standing but left turning? Cause now that I know he's not sitting, that's how it looks. Lemme know and I'll sketch you up a body uber quick to use a a ref, k?
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Post by drago on Apr 25, 2005 16:31:35 GMT -5
What kinda pose were you going for? Standing but left turning? Cause now that I know he's not sitting, that's how it looks. Lemme know and I'll sketch you up a body uber quick to use a a ref, k? The pose was originally a dragon who was leaning left "hip bouncing" another dragon, but the other one... well, let's say that one is no more. :-p But yeah, this one is leaning/looking left. So the pose, as I knew it when I colored it, was dragon standing, looking left. Now I see how MUCH leaning I put into it. drago |
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Post by Aylura on Apr 25, 2005 16:56:32 GMT -5
Since I really should be doing an essay, and my muse chews on me when I should be doing something else... *coughs...*
It's leaning really, really far left, and it's rather off-balance due to that. If you want a dynamic pose, I wouldn't say you've achieved it. Certainly forward facing poses are harder to pull off, but they're not dynamic if the creature is just standing there, like this dragon. Try having motion of some sort - running toward you, leaping, something non-symmetrical.
The anatomy needs some work. Since dragons are rather hard to come by and study off of, try looking at the chests of dogs, cats, horses (if you're doing a mammalian-like dragon) or reptiles/birds (for reptilian dragons.) Your dragon seems to be lacking a chest. The little ^ marks above each leg confuse me, and I'm not quite sure what they are.
The neck, mostly where it connect to the sky, has a strange notch. The spine generally curves gradually off the back of the skull. The head itself, since characteristics of dragons depend solely on the creature, might benefit from the use of a 'circle' method of sketching. The circle generally connects to the base of the spine at the top, and marks off the jaw line at the bottom. The eye sits on the front/top edge.
The front legs confuse me slightly. I don't know if there's a spike at the top of the joint, of if there is just an extra line there. If there was a spine at what would be considered the elbow in most animals probably wouldn't be seen in this view. The back legs and hips look a tad bit wide-set, especially with angle of view. (Foreshortening and a vanishing point would make things farther away from the view smaller and closer together)
I'm terrible at paws, so I can't say much for that. What might help is a mark where the foot joints the leg (the wrist). I can almost see it in the fore-right leg, but it's not very defined. Again, looking at some photo references would help.
...fwweee *runs back to essay-ing*
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Post by Xenon on Apr 25, 2005 17:50:09 GMT -5
First off, I'd like to say that you're all making very good critique. XD drago, I apologize in advance if this seems at all.. harsh. I'm not good at writing friendly-like. @_@;
As an added note, his back legs seem slightly skewed, like he's lowering his rear and spreading his legs. It looks awkward and uncomfortable. Lift his belly up a bit, and bring the hind legs closer together. The tail position is also a bit awkward, I'd reccomend you make it follow his spine a bit more. (downward curve, perhaps?)
As for the forelegs, I'd follow Leafy's suggestion even though he's standing. Lower the shoulders a bit more than they'd be if he was sitting to compensate for the weight he's going to have placed on them while standing. Right now, it looks like the front limbs are attached only by a little skin, and that's no good. XD; As for the elbow spikes, I doubt they'd be visible, unless he's going... opposite pigeon toed. o.o
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Post by drago on Apr 25, 2005 21:31:06 GMT -5
Wow... *scribbles down notes* I have to say that -- out of all the C&C pictures I've ever posted, this is the only one that I've gotten these many helpful critiques on! Thanks so much everyone. ^_^ *starts to sketch* ... wow ... I think I'll work on this pose before moving onto ones with movement... then build from there... Thanks everyone, it's a huge help!  drago |
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